Subject: TeXhax Digest V89 #57 From: TeXhax Digest Errors-To: TeXhax-request@cs.washington.edu Maint-Path: TeXhax-request@cs.washington.edu To: TeXhax-Distribution-List:; Reply-To: TeXhax@cs.washington.edu TeXhax Digest Monday, June 5, 1989 Volume 89 : Issue 57 Moderators: Tiina Modisett and Pierre MacKay %%% The TeXhax digest is brought to you as a service of the TeX Users Group %%% %%% in cooperation with the UnixTeX distribution service at the %%% %%% University of Washington %%% Today's Topics: ***Announcement: Upcoming TUGboat*** Pronunciation RE: What do you mean "french" spacing? Possible indentation-bug ?? Re: Possible LaTeX Bug \section headers that span two columns MUSIC-TEX from DHDURZ1.BITNET - something missing? Printing Music with TeX: Summary Assistance with Tex problem requested CIRCLE fonts, and MANFNT Re: 10pt extension font Re: Problem with script... Re: Problem with Metafont Bitnet and TeXHaXen How can I cut the text at the right margin in a tabbing ? Re: troff to TeX conversion Font files for Toshiba ExpressWriter 301 (24-pin 13xx/LQ compatible) Needed: Information concerning 24 pin drivers ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 01 Jun 89 14:44:38 PLT From: Dean Guenther Subject: Announcement: Upcoming TUGboat Keywords: general In an effort to let the \TeX\ community know what public domain \TeX\ resources are available, and how to get them, a regular column will begin in an upcoming issue of TUGboat which will describe how you can obtain a public domain copy of \TeX\ for your computer. If you have, or are aware of public domain copies of \TeX\ that can be requested, FTP'd, or in some other manner be obtained, please send a note to: {\obeylines Dean Guenther WSUCSC Pullman, WA. 99164-1220 USA Bitnet: GUENTHER@WSUVM1 Internet: guenther@wsuvm1.wsu.edu } ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 31 May 89 10:29 BST From: Jan-Ameij%UWAVM.ACS.WASHINGTON.EDU:AMEIJ@VAX.OXFORD.AC.UK, Engineer Extraordinaire Subject: Pronunciation Keywords: general Hello chums! Here's a problem that nobody seems to know a definitive answer to here, so I thought I would toss it out to the worldwide community. To wit, How should one pronounce TeX? The T and e I can deal with, but the problems seem to be with the X. Is it really an X, pronounced as in expert, eczema etc or is it as some claim really a $\chi$, pronounced as in loch (for Scots), lough (for the Irish) or Chiemsee? Or even something completely different? At the moment both sides sneer at the other, despising their ignorance, so I would appreciate a definite international standard before deciding at whom to sneer myself. Jan Ameij, Oxford University, Department of Applied Metaphysics ameij@uk.ac.oxford.vax (God knows what from outside the UK, but then if He had meant networks to be sensible He would not have given us Valium. Or IBM.) ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 28 May 89 02:47 GMT From: Peter Flynn UCC Subject: RE: What do you mean "french" spacing? Keywords: typesetting, spacing, periods Victor Eikhout asks (#40) about the extra space after a full point in European (British?) and American Typography. Hmmm. When I started composition (by hand, at case, using metal types---I guess this dates me :-) I was told only use a normal (mid) space between sentences, but that if the line was loose, then between sentences was as desirable a place to add extra space as between two long words. Of course, when doing hand justification, you use the look of the previous few lines by eye to avoid rivers, but I was also told that it was bad practice to add too much space after a full point, as the white space above the point was sufficient to let the eye recognise it as a more significant break than an ordinary inter-word gap. Of course this is more noticeable with type like CMR which has a relatively large x-height. In Times or some of the modern news faces with very small ascenders, I would guess at using a thick space by default. A lot depends on house style, too, as Victor and Pierre rightly note. I know one English office where they use a quad between sentences in anything larger than 14pt type! ...Peter Flynn ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 May 89 10:58:02 +0200 From: Koen Mols Subject: Possible indentation-bug ?? Keywords: LaTeX, indentation How can one avoid paragraph indentation after the display-math environment, other than by using the noindent command? P.S. We believe there may be a bug in LaTeX because normal text after a vdisplaymath environment, without a blanco line in between, still causes an indented new paragraph. (with the latest LaTeX-version, obtained through Arbor Text). mail address: FHAAA17 at BLEKUL11.BITNET Koen Mols, Marc De Graef, Department of Metallurgy and Materials Engineering, University of Leuven, de Croylaan 2, B-3030 Heverlee (Belgium). Organization: K.U.Leuven (Belgium) University Computing Centre ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 1 Jun 89 17:18:01 EDT From: Denys Duchier Subject: Re: Possible LaTeX Bug Keywords: LaTeX, bug In reply to Jon Warbrick: The fix is to insert \leavevmode as shown below: \begin{description} \item[This one works] and its text is printed OK. \item[But this doesn't]\leavevmode \begin{center} because the label and the text get centered! \end{center} \end{description} Denys Organization: Computer Science, Yale University, New Haven, CT 06520-2158 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 27 May 89 21:17:04 CDT From: Don Hosek Subject: \section headers that span two columns Keywords: \section header, LaTeX The correct way to have a section header span two columns would be to have the section header use the optional argument of \twocolumn to span the page. A kludgy solution would be: \twocolumn[\begin{minipage}{\textwidth} \section{This is the section title which spans two columns but is otherwise is normal} \end{minipage}] A correct solution would incorporate all necessary commands into the \section command itself. dh --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 30-May-89 at 22:43 MEZ From: Eckart Meyer Subject: MUSIC-TEX from DHDURZ1.BITNET - something missing? Keywords: TeX, music I just got the MTEX Stuff from the file server at DHDURZ1.BITNET (Germany). Works fine, but the demo file shows that a more comfortable macro package (or pre-processor) must exist. Does anybody know ? Eckart Eckart Meyer Address: Schleinitzstr. 23 Inst. f. Nachrichtentechnik 3300 Braunschweig Technical University of Braunschweig West Germany Phone: +49 531 391 2454 BITNET: I7100501@DBSTU1 Internet: I7100501%DBSTU1.BITNET@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 26 May 89 14:26:24 pdt From: merrell@wallaby.mrc.uidaho.edu Subject: Printing Music with TeX: Summary Keywords: TeX, music I have received numerous responses from my original question about printing music with TeX. Most of them looking for the same thing. However, I did receive some code from Fritz Zaucker (F48%DHDURZ1.BITNET). I have not yet had a chance to check it out, but will gladly forward it to anyone who wants it. The code is in German, but that shouldn't pose any problem to musicians since we're supposed to know at least German, Italian, French, Spanish, Latin, and perhaps even a few slavic languages. ;-) Those who have already sent me messages requesting information will receive the code shortly. Thanks for all the responses! Randy Merrell Microelectronics Research Center "Rejoice in the Lord always; College of Engineering again I say, rejoice!" University of Idaho -- Phil. 4:4 Moscow, ID 83843 UUCP: ucdavis!egg-id!ui3!rmerrell BITNET: rmerrell@groucho.mrc.uidaho.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Wed, 31 May 89 16:15:06 ADT From: buckley@cs.dal.ca Subject: Assistance with Tex problem requested Keywords: TeX, parsing I am looking for help with the following TeX problem. It is a bit different from normal typesetting. In effect, I want TeX to parse expressions. To illustrate, suppose I have TeX source for some mathematics: $ a + 3\* b \* (4+ 5\*\sin \pi)$ %\* is to make mult explicit What I would like is to be able to define a macro, say \Expr, so that \Expr{ $ a + 3\* b \* (4+ 5\*\sin \pi)$} would produce the output (in \tt font, say) a + (3*b*(4+5*sin(pi))) I have experimented with macros like \def\Expr#1+#2{\tt #1 + #2} and tried to recursively define an expression in terms of factors, etc. I have had some success, but one problem is that an expression may be the sum of two factors, or may be just one factor (i.e. a primary). The difficulty is that the macro expansion fails if the "+" is missing. Thanks for any ideas. I will be glad to respond to anyone else wishing to know the answer. Prof. Bert Buckley buckley@ac.dal.ca buckley@cs.dal.ca It you do not get a reply, please try one of the old form addresses: BITNET (NetNorth,Earn): buckley@dalac.bitnet Internet (CSNET, ARPA, EDU): buckley%dalcs@uunet.uu.net UUCP: ...!uunet!dalcs!buckley or ...!utai!dalcs!buckley ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 01 Jun 89 14:29:46 BST From: Chris Thompson Subject: CIRCLE fonts, and MANFNT Keywords: CIRCLE fonts,MANFNT Further to my question about the variability of the TFM files for the LaTeX CIRCLE fonts (TeXhax digest 1989.09), I was interested to find on a recently received `ASCII generic' tape from Stanford a version of CIRCLE.MF that has the offending line commented out as follows: % thickness#:=thickness/hppp; % and let thickness# round to right value % NO, I deleted this BAD line! --- DEK, 9 Jul 87 Note the date. (The files on the tape are purportedly versions current on 21 Mar 1988---I will have more to say about that in another posting.) The .TFM files for the circle fonts on the tape are not, however, made with this adjusted .MF file, but show the variability with resolution that I previously described. I was also intrigued to find a MANFNT.MF file on the tape, with a correctly corresponding MANFNT.TFM (but quite different from the old MANFNT.TFM). MANFNT has always been a nuisance, because if its appearance in the `preloaded fonts' list in PLAIN.TEX. It turns out that this new MANFNT.MF is the same as a file called MANUAL.MF in 1986. Is the change of name official? Should we throw away our old (useless) MANFNT.TFM files? Chris Thompson JANET: cet1@uk.ac.cam.phx ARPA: cet1%phx.cam.ac.uk@nss.cs.ucl.ac.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Jun 89 21:47:59 CDT From: Don Hosek Subject: Re: 10pt extension font Keywords: LaTeX, fonts I have mentioned the problem of the "bad" cmex choices in lfonts to Leslie Lamport previously and he responded that he did things the way he did because the magnified fonts weren't available when he originally wrote LaTeX (or some similar explanation). Personally I think that it's about time that the problem has been dealt with. The extra sizes should be defined for everything from 5pt to 25pt in LaTeX as well as all the sizes of SliTeX. For sizes under 10pt either cmex10 or cmex9 should be used. How about it Leslie? If you want, I'll even do it myself. dh Don Hosek | Internet: U33297@UICVM.UIC.EDU 3916 Elmwood | Bitnet: U33297@UICVM.BITNET Stickney, IL 60402 | DHOSEK@YMIR.BITNET Work: 312-996-2981 | UUNet: dhosek@jarthur.claremont.edu ERASE * SCRIPT * | JANET: U33297%UICVM.UIC.EDU@UK.AC.EARN-RELAY Never give a gun to ducks ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 May 89 15:51:44 CDT From: Don Hosek Subject: Re: Problem with script... Keywords: MFtool, fonts I wrote an implementation of MFtool by John Sauter (see TUGboat 8#2 I think) for CMS and currently work is under way to port my Rexx code into portable C. One of the nice things about MFtool is that it makes dealing with problems like that with CMbase and LaTeX fonts fairly simple. Here is an abbreviated portion of the local MFtool script for generating our fonts: First fonts which use only plain.bas: vBASE: plain line10 (0 0.5 1 1.5 2) linew10 (0 0.5 1 1.5 2) Several lines omitted. BASE: cmbase cmbx10 (0 0.5 1 1.5 2 2.5 3 4 5 6 7 8) cmbx5 (0 0.5 1 1.5 2 2.5 3 4 5 6 7 8). Further details will be released (through TUGboat and TeXMaG) when the vnew code (2.0) is ready for release. dh Don Hosek | Internet: U33297@UICVM.UIC.EDU 3916 Elmwood | Bitnet: U33297@UICVM.BITNET Stickney, IL 60402 | DHOSEK@YMIR.BITNET Work: 312-996-2981 | UUNet: dhosek@jarthur.claremont.edu ERASE * SCRIPT * | JANET: U33297%UICVM.UIC.EDU@UK.AC.EARN-RELAY ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Sat, 27 May 89 15:59:00 CDT From: Don Hosek Subject: Re: Problem with Metafont Keywords: METAFONT, mode_def As Pierre pointed out, the problem with the extension coming out wrong was due to a missing mode_def. The best way to deal with the problem is to generate a special plain.bas with the following command: INIMF plain input localmodes dump where localmodes is the name of a file on your system which contains the mode_def's used locally on your system (the file waits.mf is a good starting point). then, additional base files can be created in the normal fashion, e.g., INIMF &plain cmbase dump to create cmbase.bas vAs for the incorrect file name, of MFPUT, try typing the command as MF \mode=epson; input logo10 (for the MF logo font) or MF &cmbase \mode=epson; input cmr10 for cmr10. dh -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 28 May 89 02:37 GMT From: Peter Flynn UCC Subject: Bitnet and TeXHaXen Keywords: texhax, lists, bitnet Congratulations to whoever re-opened channels of communication. In the last week I have had a flood of back issues of TeXHaXen, bringing me up to date at last. As I understand it there were two problems, a logical one in addressing BITNET correctly from washington.edu, and a physical one in that some BITNET machines en route from TAMVM1 to Europe were so snowed under they lost their spool space and coughed blood for a few weeks. Anyway, Pierre, Tiina and all involved, take a bow and my thanks. ...Peter Flynn --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 30 May 89 18:19:36 MET DST From: tombre@loria.crin.fr (Karl Tombre) Subject: How can I cut the text at the right margin in a tabbing ? Keywords: bibliography, tabbing We want to output a cross reference list of keywords and the related entries from a bibliography file. For that a program has been written which starts from the bib file and outputs the following : [TAB] [TAB] Title As the title may be too long, we want to cut it off when we come to the right margin. i.e. computer vision Smith85a The use of high-level knowledge in ster This is put inside a tabbing environment. We tried to use boxes but without success. Does anybody have an idea on an easy way to do that ? Thanks in advance, Karl Tombre @ CRIN / INRIA Lorraine EMAIL : tombre@loria.crin.fr - POST : BP 239, 54506 VANDOEUVRE CEDEX, France ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 31 May 89 10:32:00 PDT From: sdsu!baase@ucsd.edu (Sara Baase) Subject: Re: troff to TeX conversion Keywords: troff, TeX Does anyone have a program to convert a file with troff formatting commands to the appropriate TeX commands? (I wouldn't expect a perfect job, but enough to save some time.) I need to convert about 12-15 pages in the next week or two. Thanks for any help or advice. Sara Baase sdsu!baase@ucsd.edu ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 1 Jun 89 13:57 GMT From: Peter Flynn UCC Subject: Font files for Toshiba ExpressWriter 301 (24-pin 13xx/LQ compatible) Keywords: Toshiba ExpressWriter 301 (24-pin 13xx/LQ compatible), font files I just tested the laptop Tosh 301 printer, battery-powered 24-pin job. Veyr nice, a bit klunky, but OK with the PC-TeX DVITOS and DVIELQ (PCDOT) driver using 180-dot font files (it does both Tosh 13xx and Epson LQ emulation) *very* small (12" wide, 5.5" deep, 3" high) and I am suitably impressed. Only problem is, the TeX output is patchy, because the 180-dot fonts were intended for a fabric-ribbon machine, so altho the dot pitch is right, the 301 is printing smaller dots (probably more accurate dots?) wherease a fabric ribbon will spludge more ink round each dot (the 301 is thermal). I guesst this means a new set of fonts, still 180-dot, but with blacker set higher (forgive the ignoarnce, I dont do metafont). Can someone suggest which params to tweak to get a better result? Is it in fact possible? given that all mf could do is print more dots, not change the dot size. ...Peter ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Date: Thu, 01 Jun 89 18:43:28 EDT From: Mark McKenna Subject: Needed: Information concerning 24 pin drivers Keywords: dviware Late last fall, there was a great deal of interest in drivers for 24 pin pri nters...for NEC and Epson printers However, I did not see any replies on TeXhax regarding where to obtain these drivers and the necessary fonts. Could anyone send me (or post) this information? thanks.. 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