TeXhax Digest Wednesday, November 11, 1987 Volume 87 : Issue 92 [SCORE.STANFORD.EDU]TEXHAX92.87 This weeks Editor: Malcolm Brown Today's Topics: Aston Archive and Beebe files different problems with VMS-TeX and LN03's Multipage tables in LaTeX a chemical TeXnical problem Response to \include questions Landscape mode in tables (plain TeX) dvi driver for Kyocera F2200 laser printer fonts, more fonts Low Res Fonts for Previewing Q: How to get TeX or LaTex?? Lunisolar calendar generator for LaTeX Re: TeXhax Digest V87 #87 Want IBM graphic char font LaTeX Notes (Re: TeXhax Digest V87 #89) AMS fonts Truncated posting--here it is again ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 3-Nov-87 00:45:37-PST,1587;000000000000 Date: 3-NOV-1987 08:47:27 From: ABBOTTP%ASTON.AC.UK@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: Aston Archive and Beebe files A number of users are still trying to access the files under the directories BEEBE and BEEBEDOC. The DVI family of drivers software is now stored under (and has been for some time) public.texdvi208. I have been notified that version 2.10 is being shipped and this will be made available under public.texdv210. The index for version 2.08 is aston.kirk::[public.texdvi208]000index.list It includes update number 14. Please note that there is no longer the fetch.list files. If you want to know the latest state of the archive the file is aston.kirk::[public]000aston.readme Peter ------------------------------ From: BEN%vmsa.technion.ac.il@forsythe.stanford.edu Date: Tue, 3 Nov 87 12:55:30 O Subject: different problems with VMS-TeX and LN03's We are having a variety of small annoying problems here. The first should be addressed to Ed Bell at UKANVAX, or any others who are VERY familiar with DVI2LN3: 1) Is there a reason that DVI2LN3 is outputting a blank sheet of paper before and after a print job? If it is to be certain of a clean sheet. (??? ) It is definnitely superflous. If there is a problem in the printer setup, somebody please enlighten me as to the proper setup. 2) Every once in a while, we have a problem of not all of the requested fonts being printed. I have traced this down to the point that the culprit seems to be that the down-loaded fonts to the LN03 are not being erased between print-jobs. Has any one else seen and/or solved this problem? Is there another change to DVI2LN3 that can be done to insert a DECDTFF after a print job? 3) This should go to Leslie Lamport, so if if you are reading, please answer. Is there a nice 'easy' way to change the format of the printed references in BIBTeX? Currently it is possible to print numbers: [2], or abbreviations: [slo-go]. We would like to be able to print superscripts and subscripts for these. As an axample, a superscripted number for a reference , and a subscripted number for a footnote. Thanks, Ben Pashkoff BEN@VMSA.TECH.AC.IL VMS coordinator Computer Center Technion ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Nov 87 10:09:32 EST From: Charlie Martin Subject: Multipage tables in LaTeX Has anyone extended the tabular environment so it works across page boundaries? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 03 Nov 87 16:03:42 +0100 From: Peter Verbeke Subject: a chemical TeXnical problem Hi guys, I think this a difficult one. Here at the chemical departement we use several word-processors with capabilities to show (on the screen) and print nasty chemical formulas. I suppose somthing of the kind must be possible with TeX and or LaTeX. So what I am realy asking is, do there exist fonts and or macro packages to do some chemical writing. I would be suprised if there weren't since TeX has very good math capabilities. Thanks, peter verbeke fgcba10@blekul11.bitnet ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 2 Nov 87 11:06:11 est From: beser_nd@scovcb.ge.com Subject: Response to \include questions I would like to thank everyone who responded to my question concerning getting a new page for every include file. Of the three replies, two contained an identical solution. I'm not sure if Eric Berg from Stanford University or Dirk Grunwald from University of Illinois sent copies of their replies to TeXHax, so I am enclosing Eric's message. >From: RTPUX1::"MCNC!MCNC!GSB-WHY.STANFORD.EDU!A.ERIC" 1-NOV-1987 15:31 >To: mcnc!beser_nd%scovcb.ge.com >Subj: > >You can use the "\input" command instead of the "\include" command, since >text which is "\input" rather than "\include"d does not have to start a >new page. However, you lose the ability to print parts of the document >selectively; there is no "\inputonly" analog to the "\includeonly" >command. (Details are on page 75-76, as mentioned in the original >posting.) > Leslie Lamport must have misunderstood my question, since the answer was to use the \input command. My question did not intend to criticize the \include capability of LaTeX. He is correct about not worrying about page layout during writing. That is the reason my editor (person not program) manages the page style. However, there are some valid reasons for breaking up a large document into sections that do not start at the begining of a page. For example a large proposal is usually broken into smaller sections where input comes from different people, and at different times. My reason had less to do with style, and more with speed. My Editor (program not person) on the IBM-PC takes several minutes to close a large file, and a few seconds to close a small file. Dr. Nicholas Beser GE Company, Astro-Space Division USENET: MCNC!BESER_ND%SCOVCB.GE.COM ARPANET: BESER_ND@SCOVCB.GE.COM ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 3 Nov 87 11:52:58 EST From: "Gideon B. Sheps" Subject: Landscape mode in tables (plain TeX) Can I set a just a few lines in landscape mode in the middle of a document? Specifically, what I need to do is set the column headings on a table in landscape mode because their minimum width is a lot longer than I have room for. I have 1 col of Row labels, followed by 8 columns of mumbers each (column) with a header that is minimum 8-10 characters accross; for a total of about 90 characters of type accross the top of my table If I can do this AND have it lined up with the columns automatically - rapture! Anyone ? Thanks. The University has a stake in any opinions I come up with while using their resources, as usual. University of Toronto Career Centre Research Office Koffler Student Services Centre Gideon Sheps 214 College st. W. 416/ 978-2081 Toronto, Ontario, Canada M5T 2Z9 career@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu career@utorgpu.bitnet ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Nov 87 12:28 N From: Subject: dvi driver for Kyocera F2200 laser printer Is there anyone (maybe Mr. Nelson Beebe, but I lost his address) who can supply me with a dvi-driver running under VMS for a Kyocera F2200 laserprinter? I know of an excellent driver under UNIX, I don't know if it has been ported to VMS yet F2200 is a 300 dpi laserprinter with capabilities of emulating IBM-graphics printer, DiabQume and NEC daisywheel printers, Epson FX80 printer and HPLaserjet. Not all function of the printers are emulated. F2200 also has an own language, called prescribe. F2200 has a large font-memory for downloaded fonts. Thanks in advance Herman F. Vogt University of Groningen Computing Centre Earn/Bitnet: VOGT@HGRRUG5 Phone: +31-50-633440 ext 3399 Snail-mail: Rekencentrum Universiteit Groningen Postbus 800 NL-9700 AV GRONINGEN THE NETHERLANDS ------------------------------ From: DLATEX%UCBCMSA.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Date: Wed, 04 Nov 87 08:31 PST Subject: fonts, more fonts Hello TeX enthusiasts, I am writing today on behalf of a friend, Keith Whiteland of University of Stirling Scotland, who has some questions about fonts. Spefically, he has need of the following fonts: hebrew, ugaritic, akkadian, medieval english, and phonetics. Anyone out there know of a source out there. Anyone know how to get a current list of Georgia Tobins METAFOUNDRY fonts? I would like to maintain a list of these fonts if anybody sends me responses, and in the future, when we have need, I could send off something to TUG about the list of available fonts in the TeX community. Thanks in advance. Doug Henderson (415) 642-9485 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Nov 87 08:59:18 EST From: beck@svax.cs.cornell.edu (Micah Beck) Subject: Low Res Fonts for Previewing At Cornell, we have been using the Xdvi program which came on with X Version 10 for previewing on Suns. We like to see the whole page at once, and we find that by using fonts created at 85 PBI we can just fit the length of a page onto the Sun screen. However, the fonts don't look great. We found that we could get better detail by using 170 BPI fonts, and setting the xdvi "shrink" parameter to 2. I never could quite understand why this is so; do you? We don't use this solution because the shrinking algorithm seems to get confused and put lines on the page where they don't belong. Now, assuming that we are going to continue using 85 BPI fonts, I've heard that there's a fix to CM font lowres italics. What's the best way to get that fix? Does anyone know the fate of Xdvi under X Version 11? It's a nice, simple, fast previewer which we'd like to continue using. If anyone is using a different set of tools and fonts to achieve a similar result, I'd be very interested in hearing about it. We just put our environment together by trial and error. Micah Beck beck@svax.cs.cornell.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 4 Nov 87 17:08:22 PST From: gruber.pa@Xerox.COM Subject: Q: How to get TeX or LaTex?? Hi. I am *hoping* to get a version of Tex or LaTex running on our Vax here at Xerox PARC (which is called parcvax), and possibly also a version running on one of our Suns. The problem: I don't know anything about how to do this, i.e. where do I go for sources or even a binary, how do I install it, etc.. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance, -- Bob Gruber Gruber.PA@Xerox.Com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Nov 87 09:45:56 EST From: ramsdell%linus@mitre-bedford.ARPA Subject: Lunisolar calendar generator for LaTeX Here is a program that prints the current phase of the moon. It also generates the LaTeX commands that produce lunisolar calendars. It is a handy program for astronomers and sailors, as a lunisolar calendar tells when the moon will be bright. John %%% John's program is too long for digest distribution. It is stored %%% for FTP at %%% [SCORE.STANFORD.EDU]RAMSDELL.TXH %%% A copy has also been forwarded to TEX-L for BITNET access. Malcolm ------------------------------ Date: 05. November 1987, 15:35:52 (CET) From: XITIJSCH%DDATHD21.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu (Joachim Schrod, THD, W.Germany) Subject: Re: TeXhax Digest V87 #87 In TeXhax #87 Boylan writes: > I am using latex for my dissertation, and wrote a number of > macros designed to typeset tables. However, I keep getting > the message 'Can't use # in restricted horizontal mode', making > it impossible to do tables with macros. All the ways I > try to work around it suffer the same fate. The minimal code > to produce the error is actually > > \newcommand{\md}{1}{\mbox{#1}} > > which doesn't involve tables at all. Well, when all else fail, read the LaTeX book... The definition should read \newcommand{\md}[1]{\mbox{#1}} You have defined a macro \md with the expansion 1, afterwards starts a group with \mbox{#1} where the # character is illegal. Phil writes about a fontname interaction with \bigl. > \font\big = cmr10 scaled \magstep5 > $\bigl(x-s(x)\bigr)\bigl(y-s(y)\bigr)$ > \end > > yields (Kellerman & Smith implementation) :- > > ! Missing , inserted. > > \big > l.2 $\bigl > (x-s(x)\bigr)\bigl(y-s(y)\bigr)$ > ? x I don't know if the network has mapped a left brace to a comma, but there should stand a left brace in the error message. The definition of \bigl is \mathopen\big. This definition is not shown because it is already processed at this time, only the token \big is put back in the input ``.'' TeX waits for a delimiter after \mathopen. So - no TeX error. Joachim TH Darmstadt Institut f\"ur Theoretische Informatik Joachim Schrod Alexanderstr. 24 D-6100 Darmstadt West Germany Bitnet: XITIJSCH@DDATHD21 ------------------------------ Date: Thu 5 Nov 87 11:52:17-PST From: Ted Shapin Subject: Want IBM graphic char font Does anyone have a font that has IBM graphic chars (codes above 127)? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Nov 87 12:17:44 pst From: lamport@src.dec.com (Leslie Lamport) Subject: LaTeX Notes (Re: TeXhax Digest V87 #89) Jeffrey Mark Siskind writes I have noticed a bug in LaTeX. When I have run it enough times so that labels and references have converged and then I delete a page, the next time I run LaTeX the table of contents (and possibly other references) is off but I don't get the appropriate warning from LaTeX. I don't know if this is repeatable so if you can't duplicate it let me know and I will try again and send you the files. The message LaTeX Warning: Label(s) may have changed. Rerun to get cross-references right. explicitly asserts that labels may have changed--that is, the values produced by a \ref or \pageref may have changed. The presence or absence of this message implies nothing about whether or not the table of contents (or list of figures, etc.) is correct. Charlie Martin writes: If anyone has gone to the trouble of defining an algorithm environment for LaTeX I'd like to hear about it before I go reinventing the famous rounded object of locomotion. I have never bothered to do this for three reasons: * Everyone has their own preferred pretty-printing style. * Each language construct requires several different formatting styles, which implies different formatting commands. For example, one might want either IF b THEN c ELSE d or IF b THEN c ELSE d depending upon the widths of b, c, and d and the initial indentation of the IF. Even if you have a reasonable algorithm for deciding which representation to use, I doubt if there's a reasonable way to write a TeX macro to implement the algorithm automatically. * I've found the tabbing environment easy enought to use that such macros wouldn't save me that much time. A better approach is probably to write a program in some ordinary language that takes the algorithm as input and produces a LaTeX tabbing environment. However, if anyone cares to write LaTeX macros to do the formatting, he should note the following comment in latex.tex % \@ifatmargin : an \if that is true iff the current line. % has width zero Leslie Lamport ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1987 15:19 EST From: Jim Walker Subject: AMS fonts Has anyone successfully moved the AMS fonts (300dpi version) to a VAX/ VMS system? I tried transmitting them from a PC using Kermit, with "set file type fixed" selected on the VAX end. The resulting files were read without complaint by PKtoPX (and the TFM files are read without complaint by TeX), but they don't print. When I looked at a pxl file using NEWFFC, the characters were garbled. Help! ------------------------------ Date: Tue 10 Nov 87 17:54:08-MST From: "Nelson H.F. Beebe" Subject: Truncated posting--here it is again My DVI posting in the latest TeXHaX got truncated in midstream. Here is the original. Coule it be reposted in its entirety, please. %%% Yes, the entire original follows. My apologies! I blew it. I %%% meant to cut the truncated version out of texhax91, but I %%% didn't. So: sorry to all texhax readers, who must have %%% been puzzled by the sudden end of Nelson's submission in %%% texhax91, and to Nelson. Malcolm Version 2.10 of my DVI driver family was released 01-Nov-87. Users who are on the DVI mailing list have already been sent Newsletter #14 with details. The most significant changes are substantial enhancements to the drivers for the HP LaserJet Plus (and compatibles) and PostScript printers, and the addition of two experimental drivers for Epson 9-pin printers. If you read this, and have the driver software, but are not on the DVI mailing list, please send a request to BEEBE@Science.Utah.Edu to be added. We now have a European Bitnet redistribution site at the University of Heidelburg, a British Janet redistribution site at Aston University, and are setting up a European DECNET redistribution site at the University of Padova in Italy. I expect soon that a Japanese site will be added. ************************************************************ ** My request to this net is for someone to offer Bitnet ** ** server support for the US and Canada, in order that ** ** Bitnet sites can obtain the drivers electronically. ** ************************************************************ The master distribution directories, APS:, at Science.Utah.Edu provide for Arpanet access, but provide no access for people on other popular nets. About 3.6Mb of disk space is required for the approximately 210 files in the distribution (no binary files are stored). For the convenience of Unix Arpanet sites, I also maintain a compressed tar file, which requires another 934Kb of disk space. VAX VMS sites who wish to obtain a VMS binary distribution may now do so via ANONYMOUS FTP (password GUEST) to CTRSCI.UTAH.EDU (Internet 128.110.192.4); a 00README.TXT file in the login directory gives details. I am unwilling at this point to deposit the family on one of the Usenet distributions, such as comp.sources.unix, because of the large size of the DVI family, its rapid evolution, and the long delay (sometimes months) between posting and appearance. Also, there is no central repository, but instead thousands of copies spread throughout the world, making updating a Herculean task. Finally, I can report that the troubles a few Arpanet sites have had in accessing Science.Utah.Edu are due to gateways elsewhere on the net which have inadequate host table sizes, and apparently lose addresses with high Internet numbers (ours is 128.110.192.2). This problem is insoluble for the moment. Arpanet IMP's, which function as some, but not all, of the gateways, are undergoing major software upgrades this fall, and we can only hope that the upgrades will eliminate the connection problems. If some kind Arpanet site with a low Internet number wishes to volunteer repository space, I will be happy to use it. Such a site should preferably support the FTP UPDATE/INSTALL commands (which Unix FTP's apparently do not), in order that updating of the distribution can be automated. ------------------------------ %%% %%% subscriptions, address changes to: texhax-request@score.stanford.edu %%% please send a valid arpanet address!! %%% %%% submissions to: texhax@score.stanford.edu %%% %%% BITNET redistribution: TEX-L@TAMVM1.BITNET (list server) %%% %%%\bye %%% ------------------------------ End of TeXhax Digest ************************** -------