From: TeXhax Digest Errors-to: TeXhax-request@Score.Stanford.EDU Maint-Path: TeXhax-request@Score.Stanford.EDU To: TeXhax Distribution List: ; Reply-to: TeXhax@Score.Stanford.edu TeXhax Digest Thursday, June 25, 1987 Volume 87 : Issue 53 [SCORE.STANFORD.EDU]TEXHAX53.87 Editor: Malcolm Brown Today's Topics: Re: TeXhax Digest V87 #50 LaTeX Notes (Re: TeXhax Digest V87 #51) .pxl files for xdvi VM/CMS Questions LATEX for non-english languages including APL VM/CMS Questions Re: TeXhax Digest V87 #49 DVILG8 problems BibTex primer ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 6/24/87 From: Malcolm Subject: moderate notes %% With this issue, TeXhax is pretty much caught up. Please note that %% I'll be away at the IBM AEP conference until July 2nd, so there will %% be no TeXhax digests during that time. %% %% On another front, while I welcome local redistribution of TeXhax, it %% can be a pain when the local lists get out of date. Most mailers, %% when unable to complete a local distribution, seem to return the %% digest to me at Score. After issuing a digest, I can as much as 400K %% of returned mail to wade through, which certainly takes all the "fun" %% out of editorial work. It also tends to make one cranky and prone to %% rash acts such as deleting a troublesome redistribution alias. %% %% Hence I'd really appreciate it if locals took responsibility for keeping %% their distribution lists up to date. You'll be hearing from me, in one %% form or another, if your list is belching returned digests. %% %% Another unfortunate effect of getting bogged down in a morass of returned %% digests is that genuine requests to texhax-request can easily get lost. %% My apologies whenever this happens. If you don't get the action you %% requested, please re-send the request. It's not that I'm ignoring you; %% I'm probably just bogged down by all this other junk. %% %% Malcolm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jun 87 10:19:05 EDT From: gil@svax.cs.cornell.edu (Gil Neiger) To: TeXhax@score.stanford.edu Subject: Re: TeXhax Digest V87 #50 In article <7688@cornell.UUCP> mroth@afit-ab.arpa (Mark A. Roth) writes > >Date: Thu, 18 Jun 87 10:00:14 EDT >From: mroth@afit-ab.arpa (Mark A. Roth) >To: gil@svax.cs.cornell.edu >Subject: RE: Umlauted Initials in bibtex > >I have successfully put accents in .bib files by enclosing the word being >accented in an \mbox{}. I also may have used \protect before this. >This is also necessary to preserve capatilization and to use super and >subscripts in the bib entries. > >Mark Roth > >------------------------------ This works to put accents and ligatures in names in bibtex entries, but will not suffice to get bibtex to correctly accent the first letter of a name when you only request initials. That is, name = {\"Ozalp Babao\~glu} will be processed by bibtex into O. Babao\~glu That is, the umlaut is lost. Oren Patashnik has told me that this will be corrected in the next version of bibtex. - Gil ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jun 87 11:16:43 PDT From: lamport@src.DEC.COM (Leslie Lamport) To: TeXhax@Score.Stanford.edu Subject: LaTeX Notes (Re: TeXhax Digest V87 #51) gfoster%violet.Berkeley.EDU@berkeley.edu at writes: Many technical textbooks use boxes to highlight certain material, or to make side remarks. These are blocks of text, equations and figures that are enclosed in a box (like \framebox, but for blocks of a page or more). It should be possible to make Latex do this. O On PostScript printers (like the Apple LaserWriter) it should even be possible to superimpose a background tint!). Has anyone addressed this formatting problem in Latex? It's a shame to have such a high-powered formatting language, and be unable to match the page formatting ability of modern textbooks. This is a special case of a general facility that would be nice. This facility would also allow one to implement change bars easily. The trick is to add to LaTeX a list of "page marks" containing vertical positions on the page plus some additional information, plus a declaration of a "pagemarking" command that takes as argument two page positions and produces a zero-height box. The LaTeX output routine would, when it assembles a column, call the pagemarking command with start and stop heights to produce a bunch of zero-height boxes at the top of the page. For boxing, the pagemarking algorithm would produce two vertical lines, one on each side of the page, between the starting and stopping heights. The commands that set the page marks would draw the tops and bottoms of the boxes (and issue the PostScript commands to turn tinting on and off). For change bars, the pagemarking algorithm would just draw a vertical bar. It would not be too hard for a good TeX hacker to add such a facility to LaTeX. Figure and table environments and a marginal notes call the output routine to do a lot of processing and then put the current output back on the vertical list. It shouldn't be too hard to add an additional class of output-routine call to provide this facility. If someone makes the necessary changes, I'll consider adding them to LaTeX. However, a caveat. It's may not be possible to accurately determine where something will appear on the page in this manner because it depends upon how much the vertical glue is stretched or shrunk in the final column page of output. This USUALLY won't matter in these two applications. (In making boxes, the commands to draw the tops and bottom of boxes should draw part of the sides, so there'll be overlap with the side rules drawn by the pagemarking command.) However, this could lead to some surprises. It might be better simply to add commands to make it easier for the user to draw the boxes "by hand". Leslie Lamport ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jun 87 11:38:31 pdt From: ucdavis!iris!arons@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Tom Arons) To: texhax@score.stanford.edu, xpert@athena.mit.edu Subject: .pxl files for xdvi Xdvi does a fine job of previewing .dvi files on an X display. If one wants instead a human readable display, the output is not suitable since xdvi subsamples .pxl files of typically 300 or 240 dpi resolution by a factor of 3 or 4 to fit the output on a ~1k x ~1k display. Does anyone know of a source for .pxl files of ~80dpi resolution so that xdvi could be used to make a human readable display? Alternatively, does anyone know of a program that will display dvi files on an X display using the 'closest' X font file. I realize that using X font files directly would probably be faster, but might run into alot of problems with spacing and character set differences unless someone designed a set of .onx files to match corresponding .pxl files. Please reply directly as I am not subscriber to both groups. I will summarize and post if I discover anything interesting. Thank you, Tom Arons arons@iris.ucdavis.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Jun 87 15:39 CDT From: Neil Erdwien Subject: VM/CMS Questions To: I have two quick questions: 1. Is it possible/reasonable to get TeX working under CMS without having the VS/PASCAL compiler? 2. Is Maria Code the preferred distribution mechanism or is there a BITNET or ARPANET method of getting all of TeX? I have seen pieces, but not the whole thing. Neil Erdwien Kansas State University ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 21 Jun 87 18:19:57 MEZ From: Z3000PA%AWITUW01.BITNET@forsythe.stanford.edu Subject: LATEX for non-english languages To: texhax@score.stanford.edu As some of you may have noticed already, there exist several strange places on earth where people have the very strange habit, indeed, of speaking, writing, and even printing in lanuguages other than English. Now, here is a suggestion how LaTeX might be made useful for the poor people in those countries, too. Extensions to many more languages are encouraged and could be propagated via TEXHAX like this one. Let's make TeX and LaTeX a bit more international and cosmo-polite! % \adate, \ddate, \edate, \fdate redefine \today to use the Austrian, % german, english or french date format, resp. % \dcaptions, \ecaptions, \fcaptions switch to german, english or french % chapter captions etc. This will have an effect only % if the document style files use the symbolic names % \chaptername etc. instead of the original english words. \gdef\adate{\def\today{\number\day.c\ifcase\month\or J\"anner\or Feber\or M\"arz\or April\or Mai\or Juni\or Juli\or August\or September\or Oktober\or November\or Dezember\fi \space\number\year}} \gdef\ddate{\def\today{\number\day.c\ifcase\month\or Januar\or Februar\or M\"arz\or April\or Mai\or Juni\or Juli\or August\or September\or Oktober\or November\or Dezember\fi \space\number\year}} \gdef\edate{\def\today{\ifcase\month\or January\or February\or March\or April\or May\or June\or July\or August\or September\or October\or November\or December\fi \space\number\day, \number\year}} \gdef\fdate{\def\today{\number\day\space\ifcase\month\or janvier\or f\'evrier\or mars\or avril\or mai\or juin\or juillet\or ao\~ut\or septembre\or octobre\or novembre\or d\'ecembre\fi \space\number\year}} % Here is, how you can modify the LATEX document style files and option % files, to benefit from the following \xcaptions commands. Lines like % \def\tableofcontents{\section*{Contents\markboth{CONTENTS}{CONTENTS}} % \@starttoc{toc}} % should be replaced by lines like % \def\contentsname{Contents} % <--- % \def\tableofcontents{\section*{\contentsname % \markboth{\uppercase{\contentsname}}{\uppercase{\contentsname}}} % \@starttoc{toc}} % and of course, you should modify the change date in the file header and % in the \typeout command. \gdef\dcaptions{ \def\refname{Literatur} \def\abstractname{Zusammenfassung} \def\bibname{Literaturverzeichnis} \def\chaptername{Kapitel} \def\appendixname{Anhang} \def\contentsname{Inhaltsverzeichnis} \def\listfigurename{Abbildungsverzeichnis} \def\listtablename{Tabellenverzeichnis} \def\indexname{Index} \def\figurename{Abbildung} \def\tablename{Tabelle} \def\partname{Teil}} \gdef\ecaptions{ \def\refname{References} \def\abstractname{Abstract} \def\bibname{Bibliography} \def\chaptername{Chapter} \def\appendixname{Appendix} \def\contentsname{Contents} \def\listfigurename{List of Figures} \def\listtablename{List of Tables} \def\indexname{Index} \def\figurename{Figure} \def\tablename{Table} \def\partname{Part}} \gdef\fcaptions{ \def\refname{R\'ef\'erences} \def\abstractname{R\'esum\'e} \def\bibname{Bibliographie} \def\chaptername{Chapitre} \def\appendixname{Appendice} \def\contentsname{Table des mati\`eres} \def\listfigurename{Liste des figures} \def\listtablename{Liste des tables} \def\indexname{Index} \def\figurename{Figure} \def\tablename{Table} \def\partname{Partie}} Hubert Partl Technical University of Vienna Austria (W.Europe) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 19 Jun 87 10:01:37 CET To: texhax@score.stanford.edu From: HAHN_K%DMRHRZ11.BITNET@wiscvm.wisc.edu Subject: including APL I'm new to the list, so if this has been asked before... I wonder if anybody has already developped a set of macros or a Metafont- description or whatsoever for using APL-symbols? If so, where could I get hold of this? If not, any pointers, comments, help??? Thanks, Klaus. -- Klaus Hahn. Department of Psychology Gutenbergstr. 18 University of MARBURG D-3550 Marburg, West-Germany ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 87 07:49:11 PLT From: Dean Guenther Subject: VM/CMS Questions To: TeXhax Digest Neil Erdwein asks: > 1. Is it possible/reasonable to get TeX working under CMS without having > the VS/PASCAL compiler? Yes, the CMS distribution tape will run as is whether you have PASCAL/VS or not. You cannot, however, modify the source code without PASCAL/VS. > 2. Is Maria Code the preferred distribution mechanism or is there a > BITNET or ARPANET method of getting all of TeX? I have seen pieces, > but not the whole thing. Maria is the distribution mechanism. There is no BITNET or ARPANET method for getting all of TeX. Dean Guenther TeX IBM VM/CMS Site Coordinator Washington State University Pullman, Wa. 99164-1220 phone: 509-335-0411 BITnet: GUENTHER@WSUVM1 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 87 09:50:09 EST From: Brian Donovan Subject: Re: TeXhax Digest V87 #49 To: TeXhax@score.stanford.edu Query for Device Driver: We are running TeX on an IBM 4381 under CMS rel 4.2. Presently we are considering the purchase of the QMS 2400s lasergraphic printer. However, we are concerned about the availability of device drivers and interface needed for such a printer. Hence, it would be greatly appreciated if anyone can help us with the following queries: 1) Availability of Device Drivers for the QMS 2400s printer. (i.e., where can it be obtained, how much does it cost.) 2) Type of interface needed 3) Comments on limitations of the driver 4) Anything else that we should know Can anyone help us Thank you in advance Brian Donovan Computing Consultant University of Windsor Computer Centre Canada (BDI@WINDSOR1) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 87 16:31 EDT From: (Rob Malouf) Subject: DVILG8 problems To: TEXHAX@score.stanford.edu X-Original-To: TEXHAX@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU, RMALOUF Hello, Not too long ago, someone asked about installing the newest version of TeX with the DVILG8 dvi-to-QUIC processor. I just finished a successful (I hope) upgrade of my TeX to version 2.0.1 (from K & S), and I think I might know what his problem was. In order for DVILG8 to work properly, the file TEX$:RESIDENT.FNT must be update to reflect the currently download fonts. Notice that that means that TEX$ must be properly defined. Also, TEX$FONTS and TEX$SUB must still be defined. It might seem that with the new TeX these logical names are no longer needed, but, as I found out the hard way, they most certainly are. I hope that does the trick! Rob Malouf Marine Sciences Research Center State University of New York Stony Brook, NY 11794-500 RMALOUF@SBCCMAIL.BITNET ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Jun 87 14:19:46 EDT From: futrell%corwin.ccs.northeastern.edu@RELAY.CS.NET To: texhax@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU Subject: BibTex primer There's not much expertise in BibTex around here. One person that uses it suggests running LaTeX, BibTeX, LaTeX, LaTeX (3 passes of LaTeX!) to get things in proper form. I cannot believe the system was designed so inefficiently. What I'd like to see is a trivial example of which items to insert at what points in my sources to get a bibliography to appear with minimum # of passes. I have successfully produced bibliographies and the correct citations but want to do it more efficiently. It's also been suggested that I remove .aux files when re-doing things, etc. All this is done on our 4.3BSD vaX. The LaTeX book is mum on these issues. Bob Futrelle College of Computer Science 161CN Northeastern University 360 Huntington Ave. Boston, MA 02115 (617)-437-2076 futrelle@corwin.CCS.northeastern.EDU ------------------------------ %%% %%% subscriptions, address changes to: texhax-request@score.stanford.edu %%% %%% submissions to: texhax@score.stanford.edu %%% %%% BITNET redistribution: TEX-L@TAMVM1.BITNET (list server) %%% %%%\bye %%% ------------------------------ End of TeXhax Digest ************************** -------