Date: Wed 3 Jun 87 19:29:26 PDT Subject: TeXhax Digest V87 #42 From: TeXhax Digest Errors-to: TeXhax-request@Score.Stanford.EDU Maint-Path: TeXhax-request@Score.Stanford.EDU To: TeXhax Distribution List: ; Reply-to: TeXhax@Score.Stanford.edu TeXhax Digest Wednesday, June 3, 1987 Volume 87 : Issue 42 This weeks Editor: Malcolm Brown Today's Topics: Conference proceedings with > 8.5x11 re: german hyphenation Re: Haim Levkowitz asks how to put an equation number on a formula Graphics facility for LaTeX wanted line10.gf (the new one...) A bug in LaTeX ? PC Driver for the IBM 3812 re: german hyphenation Equation numbering references driver for LM-300 Monitor of Princeton Graphics Systems Inc. Any phoneme fonts out there? Re: Reply to Buyske and two queries LaTeX Notes (Re: TeXhax Digest V87 #40) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 21 May 87 16:46:42 CDT From: anita@astro.as.utexas.edu (Anita Cochran) Posted-Date: Thu, 21 May 87 16:46:42 CDT To: texhax@score.stanford.edu Subject: Conference proceedings with > 8.5x11 People have been discussing the problem with conference proceedings which want page sizes greater than 8.5x11. Some people are finding some organizations to be flexible. I thought I would recont my recent experiences. In the past 6 months I have submitted papers to two different symposia proceedings which were published by the European Space Agency Technical Publications. The final copy is printed on A4 paper which is taller than US paper and slightly narrower. The forms were huge (they use a 25% reduce). When the author kits arrived they addressed the question of word processors and the inability of them to handle the form size as follows: They said they understood that these forms do not fit in many word processors. If you want to use a word processor, follow their format and cut and paste the document to fit the format! Needless to say it was a royal pain. I had TeX produce text which was single column wide with the column 10.5 cm and then spent hours cutting and pasting. Needless to say, sometimes I got things crooked. What a waste of beautiful TeX output! (thir double columns were even wider than 8.5x11 paper). SO not all publishers are enlightened yet! And you should have seen some of their style requirements. Citations had to be in numbered order of appearance but the reference in the text was: ... shown by Cochran (Ref. 10). And the bibliography was worse. Absolutely NO periods (as in Cochran A L not Cochran, A. L. as I would have done). Moral of the story is that so-called publishing experts don't always do so well! Anita Cochran uucp: {noao, ut-sally, ut-ngp}!utastro!anita arpa: anita@astro.as.utexas.edu snail: Astronomy Dept., The Univ. of Texas, Austin, TX, 78712 at&t: (512) 471-1471 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 87 12:06:00 PDT From: Laura_Halliday%UBC.MAILNET@MIT-Multics.ARPA To: texhax@score.stanford.edu Subject: re: german hyphenation carol premji asks: > also, how does tex handle the spelling changes in words when > hyphenating in german? see the texbook, exercise 14.8. knuth does it with \discretionary. for the work backen, which hyphenates as bak-ken: \def\ck{\discretionary{k-}{k}{ck}} and then spell the word as ba\ck en knuth advises (page 314) that tex's hyphenation algorithm is not capable of such things automatically. -laura halliday userdlla@ubcmtsg.bitnet laura_halliday%ubc@um.cc.umich.edu ...ihnp4!alberta!ubc-vision!ubc-bdcvax!halliday ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 21 May 87 16:36:22 PDT From: lamport@src.DEC.COM (Leslie Lamport) To: Haim Levkowitz , texhax@score.stanford.edu Subject: Re: Haim Levkowitz asks how to put an equation number on a formula From: Haim Levkowitz what i am trying to do is put a number on something that i'll try to describe in words: on the left-hand-side there should be something, say, f(c) = on the right-hand-side there should be a big brace (\left\{) followed by several lines of equations. (the left hand side sits in the mid line). i can get the entire thing perfectly (sans numbers) using \[ f(c) = \left\{ \begin{array} <> \end{array} \right. \] replacing the array with eqnarray doesn't work. So am i missing something obvious? I'd appreciate any enlighting hints. I gather that you're trying to number separately each of the "equations" in the `<>'. If this is something that you use a lot, then you might want to define an environment to do it for you. This would require a lot of raw TeX hacking. The quick and dirty way is to do it "by hand"--e.g., \newcommand{\eqnnumber}{\addtocounter{equation}{1}(\theequation)} defines the command \eqnnumber to produce an equation number with the proper value. You can then fiddle with alignment and spacing to get the resulting equation numbers to appear where they belong (see section 5.4 of the manual). Leslie Lamport ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 May 87 12:01:54 +0100 From: wtho%cgcha.UUCP%cernvax.bitnet@BERKELEY.EDU (Tom Hofmann) To: texhax@score.stanford.edu Subject: Graphics facility for LaTeX wanted We use LaTeX for typesetting and need better graphics facilities for interactively producing diagrams. Does someone know about an inter- active graphics system that produces LaTeX commands for the picture environment. Or is there another solution for simply producing and modifying graphics for LaTeX? Tom Hofmann, CIBA-GEIGY AG, Scientific Computer Center, Basel, Switzerland E-mail: wtho@cgcha.uucp ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 May 87 07:13:19 EST From: "S Bechtolsheim" To: texhax@score.stanford.edu Subject: line10.gf (the new one...) When reading in the gf file for line10.gf, then the "real width" comes out as zero, whereas the tfm-width seems to be correct. I discovered this in my dvi->ps driver, when I started to check for how much a maxdrift correction is (and I got values like 40 pixels.....). Any rationale behind it? Did I goof somewhere? The driver works fine, if I just ignore that, and do my maxdrift regardless of how much it is. But still, to have a printer width of zero, where the tfm width is not zero seems to be odd. Stephan Bechtolsheim i5f@l.cc.purdue.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 May 87 11:37:22 BST From: Bran Boguraev To: texhax@score.stanford.edu Subject: A bug in LaTeX ? Acknowledge-to: bkb@uk.ac.cam.cl I have a document split into sections. Using the \include command, with immediately after the argument name followed by a "}" on a new line, caused LaTeX to write the .aux file onto my section.tex source! A chapter of my report was gone --- just like that... [a very recent system dump saved the day]. Below is a reconstruction: % % % cat hdr.tex \documentstyle{article} \begin{document} % % cat s1.tex some text % % cat s2.tex and some more % % % latex hdr This is TeX, Version 2.0 for Berkeley UNIX (preloaded format=lplain 87.2.20) (hdr.tex LaTeX Version 2.09 - Released 19 April 1986 (/usr/lib/tex/macros/article.sty Document Style `article'. Released 17 December 1985 (/usr/lib/tex/macros/art10.sty)) No file hdr.aux. ) *\include{s1} (s1.tex) [1] *\include{s2 *} (s2.tex) [2] *\end{document} (hdr.aux (s1.aux) (s2.tex)) Output written on hdr.dvi (2 pages, 340 bytes). Transcript written on hdr.log. % % % cat s2.tex \relax \global\@namedef{cp@s2 }{ \setcounter{page}{3} \setcounter{equation}{0} \setcounter{enumi}{0} \setcounter{enumii}{0} \setcounter{enumiii}{0} \setcounter{enumiv}{0} \setcounter{footnote}{0} \setcounter{mpfootnote}{0} \setcounter{part}{0} \setcounter{section}{0} \setcounter{subsection}{0} \setcounter{subsubsection}{0} \setcounter{paragraph}{0} \setcounter{subparagraph}{0} \setcounter{figure}{0} \setcounter{table}{0} } % % Why there was a after the file name is not at issue --- this is easy to do when in interactive mode. The thought of a program trampling on its source, however, is frightening... I hope this is a bug, and not a feature? Bran Boguraev University of Cambridge Computer Laboratory Cambridge CB2 3QG, UK ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 May 87 08:16:06 PLT From: Dean Guenther Subject: PC Driver for the IBM 3812 To: TeXhax Digest I have been asked from time to time if there is an IBM/PC XT or AT (or compatible) printer driver for the IBM 3812. There is, and it is available for the asking from Gustaf Neumann. You are welcome to use it, but do not commercialize it. It is written in Microsoft C. To get a copy, send a note to NEUMANN@AWIWUW11 on BITNET. Dean Guenther TeX IBM VM/CMS Site Coordinator Washington State University Pullman, Wa. 99164-1220 phone: 509-335-0411 BITnet: GUENTHER@WSUVM1 ------------------------------ Mail-From: BEETON created at 22-May-87 09:30:00 Date: Fri 22 May 87 09:30:00-PDT From: Barbara Beeton Subject: re: german hyphenation In-Reply-To: <606805@UBC.MAILNET> some extensions to tex have managed to accommodate discretionaries of this sort. in the upcoming issue of tugboat, there's an announcement by michael ferguson that his multilingual tex will now do this. to quote the relevant item: \mtex{} will now hyphenate words that have an explicit |\discretionary|. Each part of the word including the discretionary is treated as a separate word for hyphenation purposes. This allows for the hyphenation of words such as ``Wechselstromwecker'' where the ``ck'' is represented by |\discretionary{k-}{k}{ck}|. The hyphens then given by |\showhyphens| are ``Wech-sel-stromwek-ker''. earlier articles on multilingual tex appeared in tugboat 6#2, pp 57-58, and 7#1, p 16. -- barbara beeton editor, tugboat bnb@xx.lcs.mit.edu ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 May 1987 09:23:48 +0300 From: Malka Cymbalista Subject: Equation numbering references To: TeXhax@score.stanford.edu John Kennedy asks about symbolic names for equation numbers. The following should work: % \eqn{\name} In display math mode, if you wish to % generate a dummy name for an equation, % use \eqn{\name} as the argument. From % that point on \name will always be % associated with that particular equation, % and when \name is typed TEX will convert % it to the appropriate number. % % The virtue of the dummy name is that if % equations are added at a later time, % named equations or equations numbered % using \eqno{\eq} will be automatically % correctly renumbered. If \name is used % then all textual references to that % equation will also be renumbered. \newcount\eqnum \eqnum = 0 % \def\eqname#1{\global\advance\eqnum by 1 \xdef#1{ (\the\eqnum ) } (\the\eqnum ) } % \def\eqn#1{\eqno \eqname{#1} } Malki Cymbalista Weizmann Institute of Science ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 May 87 12:55:15 SET To: TEXHAX@SCORE.STANFORD.EDU From: KVS%DGAIPP1S.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU Return-Receipt-To: KVS@DGAIPP1S.BITNET Subject: driver for LM-300 Monitor of Princeton Graphics Systems Inc. Date: 22 May 1987, 12:51:26 SET From: Dr. Kurt v. Sengbusch 089-3299-9904 KVS at DGAIPP1S Princeton Graphics Systems offers the LM-300 Monitor with a pixel resolution of 1200 x 1664 on a 8 1/2" x 11" display. Has anybody already used this display for TeX-previewing ? If so, what system, which driver ? Kurt v. Sengbusch ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 May 87 23:58:19 EDT From: Deb Jackson Posted-Date: Fri, 22 May 87 23:58:19 EDT To: SCORE.STANFORD.EDU!TeXhax@seismo.CSS.GOV Subject: Any phoneme fonts out there? I'm looking for a phoneme font for TeX/LaTeX. I guess I need the pxl file, but any pointers in the right direction would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance! Deb Jackson deb@dsp.ee.gatech.edu \\ deb@gt-eedsp.UUCP (404) 351-8294 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 May 87 11:02 MST From: (You do their work, and they shall have good ...) Subject: Re: Reply to Buyske and two queries To: texhax@score.stanford.edu X-Original-To: texhax@score.stanford.edu, JMS In a recent texhax, MATH300@UNLCDC3 asks: >2) This brings me to my first question: What journals and publishers currently >accept TeX documents approved for publication in a machine readable format? >(This should not include journals or series using camera-ready copy.) The DECUS Proceedings accepts machine readable TeX submissions. These are run through a TeX or LaTeX stylesheet called DeProc (and bravo and thanks to Barbara Beeton for making this available to us!!!) before printing camera-ready. DeProc is available at finer Stylesheet FTP servers everywhere, on DCS, through the DECUS library, and on SIG tapes. It is also likely that the DECUS SIGs Newsletters will allow a similar submission in the very near future. Joel Snyder, Editor, Proceedings of the Digital Equipment Computer Users' Society ------------------------------ From: lamport@src.DEC.COM (Leslie Lamport) Date: 25 May 1987 1517-PDT (Monday) To: TeXhax@Score.Stanford.edu Subject: LaTeX Notes (Re: TeXhax Digest V87 #40) Steve Dunbar (MATH300 @ UNLCDC3.BITNET) asks 2) What journals and publishers currently accept TeX documents approved for publication in a machine readable format? (This should not include journals or series using camera-ready copy.) I know of one journal being typeset with LaTeX and accepting electronic LaTeX input. Unfortunately, I'm not in my office now so I can't find the exact info, but I think it's edited by Stephen Wolfram and is devoted to networks of automata. 3) There has been considerable discussion and controversy in this forum concerning good and readable document design/typographic design. What are some references where one can learn the basics of document design? This would be a considerable help when writing one's own macros. Also when explaining to someone "why LaTeX looks that way" it would be nice to cite some reference, beyond saying "Leslie Lamport says so." I wish I knew. I spent some time looking for such a reference and never discovered one that I found useful. I found it very hard to get usable information about document-style design by directly questioning designers; it seems to be almost impossible to get it from their writings. What little I've learned about the general principles of typographic design has come by a very indirect process. The best way to find answers to specific design problems if you don't have a helpful designer handy is to look through professionally designed book technical books. Leslie Lamport %%% %%% subscriptions, address changes to: texhax-request@score.stanford.edu %%% %%% submissions to: texhax@score.stanford.edu %%% %%% BITNET redistribution: TEX-L@TAMVM1.BITNET (list server) %%% SUBSCRIBE TEX-L %%% %%%\bye %%% ------------------------------ End of TeXhax Digest ************************** -------